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The Abortion Post

by Kelly

I am pro-choice. If that mere fact offends you, I suggest finding alternative reading material.

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So for those of you still reading, I like to have a discussion about abortion. Specifically, the future of the right to choose in America and the current threats to Roe v. Wade. Oh, and the fact that our President is hailed for pussy-footing around the whole issue. (I love you B, but come on!)

If you didn’t hear, President Obama gave a cute little speech at Notre Dame the other day. Notre Dame, home of the Fighting Irish, is quite possibly the best Catholic university in our country. (At least, that’s what my Irish Catholic uncle tells me, but I digress). So, in his speech President Obama said the following on the subject of abortion:

“I do not suggest that the debate surrounding abortion can or should go away…Because no matter how much we may want to fudge it — indeed, while we know that the views of most Americans on the subject are complex and even contradictory — the fact is that at some level, the views of the two camps are irreconcilable…Each side will continue to make its case to the public with passion and conviction. But surely we can do so without reducing those with differing views to caricature…”

Also, this little nugget of goodness:

“…That’s when we begin to say, ‘Maybe we won’t agree on abortion, but we can still agree that this is a heart-wrenching decision for any woman. So let us work together to reduce the number of women seeking abortions by reducing unintended pregnancies. Let’s make adoption more available. Let’s provide care and support for women who do carry their children to term.”

Okay. Obama, I agree with you – mostly. I agree that we should toss out abstinence-only sex education and increase the availability of affordable birth control. I also agree that we should provide care for women who do carry their “precious” children to term (funny that the pro-lifers love fetuses but don’t give a fuck what happens to them after they are actually born). However…

What is this nonsense about abortion being a heart-wrenching decision for any woman? Let’s stop sugar-coating this shit, people. I’m willing to say this straight up: If I got pregnant today I would abort it ASAP, no qualms, no hesitation. Give me that RU-486 pill, ma’am, thank you very much. I’m too young and I have no desire what-so-ever to bring a child into this world for at least 10 years (if ever).

If men were the ones who gave birth, do you think abortions would be “heart-wrenching” for all of them? Hell, abortion would be as common and accessible as breast augmentation.

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Obviously, to have an abortion is a difficult choice for some women to make. By no means do I want to belittle their emotions and experiences regarding their abortions. However, I’m tired of the shame and disgust associated with abortion. For those of us who don’t think life starts at conception, the right to an abortion is a no-brainer. For those who do think abortion=baby-killing…why don’t you worry about saving your own soul, alright? You’re perfectly willing to support a war in Iraq, which has killed thousands of people ALREADY BORN and you sleep at night just fine, so I think you can get over a few women “killing” their unborn fetus. (EDIT: I’m aware this does not extend to ALL pro-lifers…)

I’d like to say this post is open for ANY and ALL commentary/debate/what-have-you. I would love to hear from pro-lifers, pro-choicers, pro-baby killers, whatever the hell you identify as. Just remember:

1) Keep it civil. No personal attacks will pass through comment moderation.
2) If you just want to preach your religious doctrine, go somewhere else. I’m a heathen and proud of it.
3) If your post contains the words “baby murderer,” “devil worshipper,” or “evil slutty bitch” (and you’re not being sarcastic), your comment will not pass through moderation.

I obviously have much more to say on the topic, but I thought I would respond in the comments section rather than standing up on my rotten little soapbox and boring you all to tears. :-) Hope to hear from you.

Yours Truly,
Dollface

EDIT: To the guy who commented telling me to “shut up”… I’d like to direct you to my “About Us” page in which I politely but firmly state that I will not shut up, for anyone. For more information on this subject, click here.

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P.S. Free “President Bush Sucks” condoms for the 25th comment! (Shameless attempt to get you all debating, I know)

The Story of (too much) Stuff

by Kelly

storyofstuffThe other day my cousin and I watched this video called the “Story of Stuff.” While the 20 minute length may seem daunting, the video itself is quite gripping and absolutely worthwhile. It details the havoc consumerism is wreaking on our environment & our planet. The video has simultaneously angered me, motivated me to work harder to be green, and cured me of the tendency to use retail therapy as a method of achieving happiness.

I urge you to view this video. If it leaves questions in your mind, read Annie Leonard’s book that is coming out sometime soon. The Story of Stuff website also lists “10 Little and Big Things You Can Do.”

I sent this video to many of my family members and friends. While many responded saying that they were moved by the video and sent it to everyone they knew, one relative said that he thought the video was propaganda and that he thought Wal-mart was a great “cooperative” that benefited everyone involved with it. I thought it might be useful to post an edited version of my response to him (and the rest of my family):

“Goodness! I certainly did not expect to spark this debate.

The point of the video is to get a message across, an important one. Okay, so it’s propaganda. Is all propaganda bad? Sure, to get a message across succinctly and to reach as many people as possible, the message must be simplified. Notice the video is 20 minutes long. It could be so much longer, but who would have the time to watch it?

There is a simple solution to this debate: The woman is coming out with a book on the subject. You want to see where she got her facts? Why don’t you get the book from the library when it comes out? She does mention that 10 years of research went into this project and I’d wager that she does have the evidence to support her claims.

Even if her facts are exaggerated (which I don’t think is true) — does it matter? The point she makes is an important one: sustainability is one of the most important causes in our lifetime. She is right — our Earth is a finite place. We don’t have endless resources. We cannot continue to trash our planet, cut down trees, dump our trash in landfills and harmful incinerators. I am actually reading an interesting book on garbage at the moment, and it supports much of what this woman is speaking about.

I consider you all to be intellectual, thoughtful individuals. What is so disappointing to me about reading these emails is that you are getting bogged down by the small stuff. Nitpicking over whether we are using 30% of the world’s resources or 1% doesn’t get us anywhere! What we must do is act.

We must change the way we see the world. We act as if we are entitled to that new ipod or that new sofa. We think we’re entitled to go to the store and buy whatever we can afford. Yet, we ignore the fact that we are exploiting the environment and the workers hired to produce our affordable goods.

I watched a documentary about Chinese factory workers employed by Wal-mart. They were young people who moved to cities from their homes in order to try to make money. They work for ridiculously low wages, they are housed in cramped tenement-style dormitories and separated by gender. So, women can’t live with their husbands, they wash their clothing in dirty sinks in their cramped rooms and they share bunks with other women. They work long hours and get practically no vacation time in which to see the family they are sending money to. All so that we can have our affordable goods.

We are not bystanders in this dilemma. We are actors in this exploitation. We have agency, more agency than most people in so-called “Third World countries”. What are you doing with this agency? You are plugging into your nice computer (was it purchased in the last 5 years?), sipping from your coffee mug in the comfort of your home and debating whether or not the environment is truly in danger. Rhetoric can’t help us now. We need action.”

Whether or not you have watched the video, you might be asking…”What can I do about the state of the environment? I’m just one person.” There is so much one person can do, and here are my suggestions:

Read this article about eco-friendly fashion, or how to change the world from your computer, and finally, watch the “Story of Stuff” and explore the website. We have to work together to save our planet.

- Dollface

What are you reactions to the video? What do you do personally to be more green? Please share your thoughts.

Who Are You Fooling, John McCain?

by Kelly

Amidst terrible Katic Couric interviews and misstatements about Pakistan, I am very excited for the potential Vice Presidents to face off. The debate is scheduled for this Thursday and I will be watching from my living room couch, beer in hand. Biden is an excellent debater, with many years of foreign policy under his belt. Palin is excellent at being vague and her foreign policy experience rests on Alaska’s proximity to Russia. All in all, a fair match-up, wouldn’t you agree?

However, then I read this article over at CNN’s Political Ticker. In it, they mention that the Vice Presidential debates won’t be the same as usual:

The vice presidential debate will resemble the traditional presidential event. However, the New York Times reported last Sunday that the McCain campaign sought to limit the time for freewheeling discussion in the vice presidential debate.

Advisers to Palin were reportedly worried that format could put the Alaska governor — a relatively inexperienced debater — on the defensive most of the evening.

The agreed-upon format for that debate now includes an abbreviated two-minute discussion period during which the candidates can engage each other.

Is anybody else sick of McCain coddling Palin?? If she is so “ready” for the Vice Presidency as McCain claims, why the reduced debate time? Why is McCain’s campaign hiding Sarah Palin from the press? The article mentions that Biden, “has done nearly 100 interviews since being picked as Obama’s VP on August 23. Palin, on the other hand, did her third interview with a national television network last week.”

If this isn’t a reality check for voters, I don’t know what else is. The woman cannot hold her own in an interview, and her own campaign doesn’t trust her to speak freely for 5 minutes with Biden. Palin seems to be more and more a puppet for the McCain campaign…and a crappy one at that.

I am still looking forward to the debate between Biden and Palin, but I am disappointed in the campaign McCain and Palin are running.

Obama/Biden ’08!

End of the Week Links — 9/28

by Harlequin

–> I have never been a big fan of the advertising industry, but looking at these 12 Vintage Cigarette Ads They Would Never Get Away with Now, it seems like we have come a long way…it’s just too bad we started so low.  Do these remind you of any ads today – I personally prefer ads like these.  My personal favorite is probably the Santa Claus – I mean, who doesn’t have a jolly old grandpa with a hacking cough?

–> I am a total animal lover, but these guys definitely don’t make me want to cuddle with them.  I will stick to becoming a cat lady, thank you very much.

–>I know we are all pretty sick of the trivial nature of politics lately, but after watching the debate on Friday I was more annoyed than ever with John McCain.  Not only was there some nonsense talk about wearing bracelets, but I realized I can not spend 4 years watching that turtle-headed man speak on behalf of our country.  Not to mention i was not impressed by anything he said, especially after reading some of his comments over.  I can not wait for the Biden-Palin debate.  Also, check out this article on Obama’s “lipstick on a pig” comment.

–>I really enjoyed reading this random letter mocking the role of Biblical traditions in our legal system.  It’s a very clever way of seeing the blatant hypocrisy of the religious rite; and it is just pretty funny.

So I hope you all had a great weekend full of anonymous sex and drunken debauchery; that’s what I was aiming for, but like most of my plans it failed to come to fruition…

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How To Win An Argument

by Kelly

Okay, Dale Carnegie (of How to Win Friends and Influence People fame) might be turning in his grave right now. Being argumentative, combative, or just plain opinionated is not exactly the best way to endear yourself to others. However, Harlequin and I are firm believers in expressing yourself. We don’t care if your crush is in the room, your mother, your high school Geometry teacher. We believe that no matter the circumstances, it’s important to stand up for what you value & believe.

That being said, there is a definite art to arguing. Here are several tips to not only articulate your thoughts efficiently, but even win arguments (and yeah, influence some people in the process).

- Be eloquent & articulate: This may seem obvious, but the best way to win an argument is if you state your thoughts clearly and succinctly. For some this comes easily, but others may need to practice. I recommend debating a topic with a friend or family member you feel comfortable with. That way you can practice your verbal skills without too much pressure. Other ideas to improve this skill include reading avidly (there is no better way to increase your vocabulary) and watching political debates on TV.

- Be passionate: There is no point arguing just for argument’s sake. If you decide to engage in verbal sparring with someone, it is best if you care vehemently about the issue at hand. Being passionate about your subject will not only give you an edge in the argument, but will gain you the respect of those listening. However, no matter how passionate you are, you’ll get nowhere in an argument unless you . . .

- Know the facts: You don’t have to know every state capital to win a debate or argument, but it helps to know some specifics. For example, if you are discussing abortion rights, it would be helpful to know the laws surrounding the issue. Likewise, if you maintain that 9/11 was a conspiracy by the United States government, then you better have some hard data to back that idea. While it may seem like a daunting task to know everything about anything, it’s probably easier than you realize. My advice is to read about the things you care about. It’s as simple as that! If you are passionate about the Presidential Campaign, read blogs and newspaper articles that cover the campaign trail. If you feel strongly about the death penalty, find out what states still allow it, and what methods are used in those states. That way, when you find yourself in an argument, you will have the tools necessary to make your point in a thoughtful manner.

- Stay calm: Though being passionate is crucial to any debate, you must remember to stay calm. If you become too emotional, you expose your weak points & become vulnerable to personal attacks. If your argument is becoming too heated, take time to count to 10, or excuse yourself politely. You most likely don’t want to start a physical fight, unless you’re in a Fight Club situation.

- Be sober: Harlequin and I are often guilty of “The Drunk Debate.” It happens to the best of us, but not always with the greatest results. When you argue while drunk, miscommunication and misunderstanding often gets in the way of a meaningful discussion. That’s why I recommend not getting into a debate unless you’re sober (or close to it). When you are under the influence, you are definitely not as rational & eloquent as you could be. (However, as I’m sure you’re aware, this tip is easier said than done).

- Be prepared for the consequences: No matter who wins the argument, you must be prepared for the fallout. As hard as you try to be articulate, calm, and sober, your opponent might not be so thoughtful. I have seen friendships unravel because personal attacks made their way into a debate or because irreconcilable differences came to the surface. Either way, know the potential consequences of your actions before you enter into a dispute.

- Admit when you’re wrong: As any good debater will tell you, it’s important to concede points in an argument. This method is beneficial because you will a) surprise your opponent b) show that you are reasonable c) focus on the war, not the battle. You can’t be right on every point, but you may still be able to win the overall argument.

What not to do:
- Get emotional
- Cry/whine to get your way
- Make it personal
- Make knee-jerk statements

Hopefully, if you follow these guidelines, you can win a few arguments. We wish you luck, and hey – if you lose all your friends and everyone you know shuns you as a result of this post – it’s okay, we still love ya.

For further reading, check out Gerry Spence’s book: How to Argue and Win Every Time.

Do you have any tips or advice? Share them with us!

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