So I’m missing out on tonight’s Dating While Feminist panel discussion (fellow Bostonians – it’s from 6-10pm tonight at the Lir Irish Pub on Boylston, and it features Jaclyn Friedman as moderator!) because I have a standing date with my father and my uncle to drink some vino, enjoy the gourmet meal my dad has most likely been plotting for days and watch the Godfather II. This is a time honored tradition for the three of us, so there’s really no way I can miss it – though I admit to thinking about dragging the two of them out to the event with me, securing my dad at the bar with a few pints of Guinness and then watching the panel with my uncle.
But instead, I thought I’d give you all (read: whoever still reads this thing) an update on my love life (ha!) and my thoughts on …dating while feminist…!
So. Yeah. I broke down and did the whole “internet dating thing” recently. The legit version. I’ve been grabbing random dates off craigslist since I was 19 (all of which were fun, safe and did not result in my untimely death), but I figured why not go the Web 2.0 way of it, and sign up for OkCupid.
I did. It was cool. Met a few nice people off of it, one of which I’m planning on seeing again. However, in the midst of all that there was this one guy… let’s call him Connor. So Connor was, at the start of it, totally my type. I showed up ten minutes late (as I am prone to doing) at the bar we were meeting at and he already had a shot of Jameson and a beer in front of him… and proceeded to order me a round. Nose ring, homemade tattoos, closely cropped locks. I was a fan. We talked 70’s skinhead Oi, we talked politics, we swapped favorite authors and made friends with the 60-something drunks next to us. It was a fantastic first date, quite frankly.
Then, as we hung out some more, little things started standing out to me. Number one was his reaction when I proclaimed that I was a feminist. I believe he said something to the tune of “oh, fuck, not a feminist. Not one of those bitches who can’t take a joke.” I turned my evil eye on him and swiftly corrected his opinion of me, and of feminists in general, and felt satisfied with his response once we had a serious talk about feminism and what it means to me. I felt like, hey, you know, he might say some shit off the top of his head that isn’t the greatest, but I am known to be impulsive and blunt myself and at least he’s willing to talk this shit through and be open-minded.
So I thought.
Flash forward a date or two. We are walking to his favorite bar and I don’t know how we got on the subject but he starts down this rabbit hole of a conversation about strip clubs. Now, I’ve gone through my days of this being a huge hot topic point for me – one that gets me riled up at the drop of a hat. Not so anymore – now I can at least listen to someone say they’ve been or go to strip joints and accept that they make their choices and I make mine. I try not to judge, though I still personally would never support a strip club with my money. So I’m trying my hardest not to think negatively of this guy, when he proceeds to tell me that:
“One time I was at this sketchy ass strip club in Worcester, it was basically in some guy’s house. And I got so fuckin wasted and I paid one stripper to lick the other’s c-section scar. It was hilarious.”
I kinda just stared up at him a minute, letting myself process this. Then I said, and I quote, “YOU ARE FUCKING DEPRAVED” quite loudly, and in front of a few people on the street.
I just didn’t (and don’t) get it. That’s some pure exploitative, humiliating bullshit right there. Oh, yeah, let’s find a strip club that is off the grid and even less likely to pay their workers fairly, oh and let’s get these women to engage in an act that isn’t even sexual so much as creepy. Not to mention the fact that a c-section scar is related to childbirth…
So I haven’t seen Connor since and don’t plan to. How can I, as a female and as a feminist, date or considering dating someone like that? How can someone do stupid and cruel shit to people and be good to me? Can you count on someone like that to respect you if they can’t respect other people’s humanity?
There were other awful things that this guy said, mostly for the shock factor as far I’m concerned, that I had overlooked. But this, this I couldn’t. Even if I was okay with what he was saying, I certainly couldn’t take him home to meet my housemates – and to me, that is a deal-breaker in itself.
This is what dating as a feminist is about, to be perfectly honest. It’s about putting your values first. Sure, this guy wasn’t about to ask me to lick anyone’s scars. Most likely, I wasn’t going to be on the receiving end of any objectification from him and for the most part he treated me with respect and kindness. But if he’s a dick to other women and/or does or says truly offensive things to other people, I just can’t hack it.
I’ve had plenty of guys I’m dating say pretty shitty things about feminism and about my values. The guy I was seeing over summer said to me, after a month or two of dating and always being (seemingly) supportive of my feminist beliefs, “I’m sick of your feminist bullshit.” That was the end of that relationship, right there. Sure it took a few weeks of going back and forth in my head, but I felt it in my gut when he said that to me.
But not all hope is lost. I’ve been meeting a lot of sincerely feminist men lately – ever since moving into this co-op I’ve been surrounded by lots of individuals who believe in activism, kindness and equality and are uncompromisingly passionate about these beliefs. I feel spoiled, really, which is kind of sad to think of it that way. But it’s true. I’ve hooked up with boys who practice consent. I am living with some guys who have a men’s discussion group in which they discuss privilege and being allies to the feminist cause. There’s a guy in our community putting on a punk festival (with radical workshops) to raise money for a Boston area rape crisis center.** Shit, that’s the kind of thing that’ll make a rotten little girl swoon.
So essentially – my advice is this: date feminist, always. Don’t settle. Stand up for your fucking values in every facet of your life. The personal is fucking political.
And, in the words of PRUNEHANDS, this ill radical rapper I live with, “There are too many beautiful feminist boys getting your ranting chops rusty. We got your backs rotten little girls!”
- Kelly
** If anyone is from Boston – check out the aforementioned Smash It Dead fest on March 27. Feel free to email me for details!