Comments on: The Question of Female Violence

By: Harlie

Harlie — Sat, 07 Jan 2012 22:05:03 +0000

I think that if you hit somene you better expect to be hit back. A man hitting a woman is no different from anyother case of violence.
Even though a man (may or may not) have a strength advantage women can still do some serious harm… even kill her attacker.
1. Suck it up
2. play to win
3. dont start what you cant finish

My motto: Finish it or be finished.

By: Birdie

Birdie — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:08:43 +0000

The concept of female on female violence is not completely inconceivable to me. However uncomfortable it is to think of a mother sexually abusing her own daughter, is it really so different from bringing a crack child into the world? Both equally appalling in essence. Never would I try to justify the mothers thoughts and actions against her child, but I can understand that vast secrets women keep in their hearts. Secret hate that grows and can eventually cause insanity, or our right evil. Women are not incapable of causing the same amount of evil men do, if anything, we can be more capable.

By: Ronin Truthwalker

Ronin Truthwalker — Sat, 23 May 2009 11:35:31 +0000

Self defense is a moral imperative. Violence is tool in the toolbox of self defense. Sometimes it’s the best tool, often it’s not. I would say that individual violence is neutral, neither good nor evil, it’s what you do with it that makes it good or evil.

As such, it’s perfectly acceptable to commit an act of violence on any person of any gender or sex, if such a violent act in needed.

I want to say, (though I know that this inflammatory and unhelpful) that to say that there is never an acceptable reason to be violent is to justify genocide. I

By: thatsrightnate

thatsrightnate — Mon, 04 May 2009 02:58:22 +0000

I’ve never been abused by a woman, but I did no a guy who was. It started verbally and continued. He was a normal sized guy and she was actually small for a woman, but she would do things like stab him in the arm with a scissors, pour scalding water on him when he was sleeping, and in general terrorize him. Why didn’t he leave? I don’t know. I’ve known more women in horrible situations and I never knew why they didn’t leave either. Men are much stronger and more likely to do serious injury, but I have known women that if they could have would have and in this case one who did. I believe violence is justified even from a man to a woman when somebody is put in immediate danger and the violence used is minimal and necessary for a victim to remove themselves from danger.

I remember a situation a couple of years ago when a major league pitcher named Chuck Finley was beaten bloody with a high heeled shoe by Tawny Kitaen. He did not strike her back. That basically made him a laughing stock. When he would come to pitch, the opposing teams would play the White Snake song that she starred in the video for. I think as a society we need to learn to be more sensitive to the victims of violence regardless of gender.

By: Carol in VA

Carol in VA — Sat, 02 May 2009 17:13:22 +0000

Jakub: You should have walked away from your abusive situation long before you did. NO ONE deserves to be abused. In order to find peace inside yourself again talk to someone who can help you.

By: Dollface

Dollface — Sat, 02 May 2009 16:53:08 +0000

@ Jakub — Your argument is pretty typical of a MRA. While I empathize with your situation, and understand that the cops were wrong to say “be a man, only girls call for this” (which is sexist and unhelpful), you have to realize that it’s hard for women to get out of domestic violence situations as well. It’s hard for the police to arrest someone when their wife is “hysterical” and the husband (the perpetrator) is cool, calm and collected. Every case is different and you really cannot generalize based on your personal experience. I think it would be best if you learned from your relationship and try to find some peace with yourself and others. Not to get all preachy, but it sounds like you harbor anger towards your ex-wife (understandably) and are projecting it onto all women.

And no, I would not like to kiss the darkest part of your ass, but thanks for clarifying what you meant by that. Really, I couldn’t figure it out.

P.S. Your choice of words are pretty telling. “Murder”?!?! Come on now. Lose the aggression, lose the anger.

By: jakub

jakub — Sat, 02 May 2009 03:29:19 +0000

BULLSHIT!!! being part of the whole domestic violence cycle i can honestly say… WOMEN start the whole hitting, pushing, scratching, biting, psychological, emotional, and down right fucked up abuse…. let me tell your “sisterhood” something, had i not been a strong man, who took this abuse for YEARS, i would have murdered this girl… i called the cops (on more than one occasion mind you), you know what they told me “be a man, only girls call for this kind of shit” i finally got fed up with it, and raised my hand back (big mistake) i ended up going to court, having to pay court fees, having to take aggression therapy and pay for those out of my pocket as well. women dont want equality, they want favoritism. so its ok for women to kill their husbands who were beating them up for so many years… and you say: ” awww poor female… she was done wrong and only defended herself” but when its a guy… its “well he should have restrained her” all you BITCHES can kiss the darkest part of my ass… which would be my asshole….

By: Carol in VA

Carol in VA — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:47:51 +0000

Violence is never justified. It is caused in a lot of cases where people have not learned to control their actions. Children growing up without self control. Parents uncontrolled, etc. We all need to control our own actions.

By: shivers

shivers — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:47:38 +0000

There’s no doubt that violent acts committed by women have been on the increase for a number of years now. I’m not surprised by this. As women have watched men get their own way by using anger, coercion, threats and finally outright violence, they have simply followed the demonstrated model that has proven to work. Women have stood by and watched men achieve what they want by instilling fear and have emulated it themselves. It is unfortunate however, that violent, (sexual or otherwise) intimidation and threats carried out by women receive more media air-play than those played out by men. The acts are also analysed more and ultimately condemned more. I don’t know the numbers of the ‘hidden’ violence perpetrated by men that never makes the media or documentaries but it’s got to be huge. It’s like the violence perpetrated by men is ignored, brushed aside as not really that important, minimised and essentially denied for the most part, but when it’s done by a woman, this seems to hit a nerve and using the excuse that it’s outside of the traditional gender role, it becomes a relatively big issue. In the overall grand scheme of society, violence perpetrated by women is actually relatively small (still). A number of men and men’s groups will consistently bring up that men are the victims of violence more than women are, and this is true, but they then fail to acknowledge that the violence perpetrated against men is done by other men, this last fact is generally conveniently ignored, and they leave it hanging that there’s a huge possibility that men are victims of women more than the other way around.

By: Maria

Maria — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:15:23 +0000

I don’t believe that violence is ever okay. In the case of fighting between men and spouses and women, it’s just not an adult way to handle any conflict. Many people do say that it’s alright for a man to hit a woman if she started it and it’s not. In the majority of cases, the man has much more upper body strength and can easily use it to stop the woman from hitting him by causing her very little to no pain i.e. he can restrain her, in my opinion this is the definition of self-defense. When he hits her back, it’s not self-defense, it’s just plainly desiring to harm another human being.